Question to ALL developers...

Is it possible with Dolphin to develop a 'responsive' template or plugin...

For example of responsive see - http://demo.samuli.me/wp/smartstart/

Its a WP theme - try resizing the screen when viewing it and it will 'refit' your viewing area.

Perfect for desktop, tablet and mobile.

Im on the verge of leaving Dolphin after many years as a customer due to the poor mobile viewing options.

The app just doesnt cut it as a solution for me by a long way. 

Responsive theme would bring Dolphin up to date where it should be.

Any thoughts on this as developers? Is it possible or is the current way Dolphin is put together not make this an option?

thanks.

 very simple

Yes, this is possible to create similar template as your demo (http://demo.samuli.me/wp/smartstart/)

I dont just mean the template though, I mean the responsive layout...

Can Dolphin be made Responsive?

I have a plugin that claims to make it 'fluid' but it doesnt. Not fully. All it does is resize the text...

Responsive with WP will re-arrange the 'widgets' - Dolphins page blocks... into available space depending on the screen size. 

Images will resize, text will re-align etc...

Try re-sizing the viewing window on the link I sent to see it working.

Can this be done?

Yes, dolphin template can be made responsive. Oh but it might not be an easy task to do.

 Do you mean simple to get it looking like the template linked to, or simple to make it responsive which was the point in focus...?

 Is this something you can do? 

If so, what sort of cost are we talking?

 Nop, i am not a designer even if i try it will be an ugly one 

I am not sure of the question.  Look in the market for the mouse block designer; that allows one to lay out pages anyway you may desire.

 Thats not it at all. Mouse block just enables you to move blocks around outside the normal parameters.

Responsive is completely different.

Have a look at the link in the first post... http://demo.samuli.me/wp/smartstart/

Then try re-sizing the screen on this link. You will see the whole thing re-arrange as the screen size changes. This means the site will work on desktop - tablet and mobile.

 Andrew - do you mean a template that is 'responsive' like this one is... Im not talking about the theme design but that fact that it is responsive.

I think there is a misunderstanding here to what responsive means.

They are themes, templates that are written using HTML5 & CSS3, Wordpress has been releasing them for some time now, along with many other software platforms.

The template responds to the browser forcing it to re-size to the screen size, try using this emulator to see how your webpages will look on iPhone by adding the page url.

This is one of the better emulators I have found that is not covered with ads.

http://www.cloneforsuccess.com/mobilepagecreator/iphone.php

What you are looking for is the bottom scrolling, there should be none or very little, try it with your Dolphin pages, then try it with these responsive themes, these are only test pages.

Non Wordpress

http://demo.golocaldirect.com.au/qld/agnes-water/Casa-Doro-Holiday-House-in-Agnes-Water-l2.html

Wordpress

http://test.golocaldirect.com.au/sample-page/

I hope this helps in better understanding this topic.

You mean instead of using fixed size columns and page widths to use percentages.  There are pluses and minus to both designs and depends on the site.  One could try building such with Dolphin.

I know, and my answer was 'yes'. And I already did a real responsive template for dolphin (as a custom work).

I clearly understand what 'responsive' means, don't worry about it :-)

A responsive template is a template which looks great on all devices (from small phones to wide PC screens)

 No I mean the template has to be written in HTML5 & CSS3, the block width has nothing to do with it, the content in the block is forced to show in the screen without having to scroll from left to right.

I have added different size blocks here, look at the page when you add it to the iPhone emulator, you can only scroll up & down, regardless of the block width, the content is forced to fit the screen for normal reading, no right to left scrolling.

http://demo.golocaldirect.com.au/qld/agnes-water/Casa-Doro-Holiday-House-in-Agnes-Water-l2.html

Both the sites shown have no changes made to the core, the only changes where made in the templates only.

 Great Andrew,

How long before we start to see some Responsive templates in the Market Place?

yeah how long??.. cause i want this too!

Get your pocketbooks ready

 Hi Andrew, no offence intended, I just wanted to be sure that it was the responsive but of my first post that was possible! 

Can you let me know more about the custom job you did? Was it a one off for someone or is it available to others?

If one off, can you please quote me on something similar as I am interested.

Many thanks - Tim

The template I made was G+ like template.

Depending on screen resolution we can have different 'versions' (layouts). You can notice how it switches modes during you resize your browser size.

In my plans - to produce few truly responsive templates for dolphin, but, frankly speaking, I'm a little disappointed in the current market situation, which is pretty .. weak. I've produced several great products for last two months, but none of them is popular. I can just hope that a new responsive template (and few more interesting ideas) would be popular.

Well i would buy responsive template straight away. At the moment, its the thing thats stopping me using dolphin...

Any idea on timeframe it would take? Thanks

This is a good idea, as soon as I finished my last two projects, within the next two weeks I will develop a template with responsive layout for the Boonex Market..

The future is in tablets and similar small devices, and why many are looking more at responsive templates over building mobile pages.

  There are a number of platforms updating their template range, the new standard (HTML5 & CSS3) are responsive layouts if you what your website to compete, as the mobile market continues to grow at a rapid rate, the old (current) template standards will soon become obsolete when competing in any future mobile market.

Even the days of typing in a website address are changing with Q-Codes, just point & click.

Hoping we start seeing more template developers offering a good range of responsive templates in the market place.

 I would take a step forwards and say they are already obsolete...! Still usable, but for only 50% of the potential customer.

I got my first 'smart' phone a number of years ago when they started to get more reasonable in price.

My 2 boys (12-14) got there's a couple of years ago. All their generation use them for online MORE than laptops...

The 'new' generation of kids are getting iphones and Androids at age 8!

the next will prob have them built into their hands ;-)

The only generation that is not moving as fast, but is still moving that way is the older generation. Even saying that, my 73yr old dad uses his phone for online browsing. Not as much as he still needs a larger screen to see! 

Will only be the next few years, and 90% of internet use will be mobile.

If you try to launch a site these days and its not mobile friendly, most of your first to preview it will do so on a small screen and prob not be that impressed. I know as I've had this scenario with the last Dolphin sites Ive worked on. 

All of which are currently 'on hold' and I've been forced to look at alternatives...

I guess for me, it's now a race between a good responsive template being released for Dolphin, or if I got up to scratch getting the other alternative script Im playing with to do what Dolphin did. At the moment, the script option is actually surprising me nicely...

Hope a responsive D template will be very soon otherwise it may be too little too late for me!

HI, I need your help with a template I have, I want to use the teamplate for swingers so the joining from has to be for male,female,couple,ts.group.

do you know how to do that?

i need this template to be for swingers.

My website is: fabswingers.it

Maybe this will help

http://www.boonex.com/m/Profile_Types_Splitter_Premium

and try not to spam all the forum posts with posts that are not following the topic...

 I'm thinking the responsive/fluid template is not simple, or someone would be raking in the profits from the market right now.

Andrew P and Giovanni - please let me know as soon as you start on this and if you know how long it will take to complete. Im waiting to purchase as Im sure will be many others!

Many thanks.

Tim

Hi guys I also need full yresponsive but also very good looking Professional template. Please keep this update when responsive templates become available in market..

The economy is the limiting factor; I see plenty of modules in the market, including yours, that I would love to buy for our site.  However, we, meaning my team, just don't have the funds at the moment.  And some of the directions that Boonex is taking is not helping to bring more people into using Dolphin and maybe even driving away some that are; new users means more sales; and people leaving certainly will mean less sales.

Thanks for bringing up this subject.  I've been laboring on what to do with my site... upgrading to 7.1.1 and spending more $$ on development costs or just chucking it all and go work for someone else instead of working on an endless money pit!  Needless to say, mobile use is skyrocketing, and designing for these devices is a BIG challenge.  I found this article that may inspire more developers to focus their efforts on new opportunities: 

http://thenextweb.com/dd/2013/01/13/30-new-inspiring-responsive-design-websites/

yeah unfortunately really economic situation world-wide is much worse than few years ago - for example my own business having big drop this year as I have about 50% less work :-( people trying to save money as much as possible which leads into a circle as I have to save too as have 50% less income. Dolphin modules was always very expensive but now I think you guys (developers) have to do what everybody doing including me  - give cheaper price - give your modules  50% cheaper and you will see sales get back. I know you dont want to do that as u put alot of effort to modules but I either didnt want sell my services I do cheaper.. but I had to as I had no other way.... Everybody doing that now - many people I know who run companies cutting down their prices to minimum as people basicly dont have money to afford services and products for current prices... Well that life :-(

Some modules have really ridiculpous prices. I work mainly with joomla and wp where prices are much cheaper  mostly up to 30 USD which is affordable. If price exceed 30 usd I think for most people its too much.

Already exists in the market for 7.1.

World's first responsive templates for Dolphin by browserweb.

BooFlix Lite

BooFlix Flex

Very Funny, the only thing I can see that is responsive is if you respond to one of the many ads on display.

The template is just as obsolete as the rest of Dolphins Templates.

Those you indicated are not responsive template.

I think you do not have understand what a responsive template. Read again with more attention all the post above.

But one thing I can say if you look at a social network such as Facebook does not have a template responsive, but two templates one for mobile and one for desktop and i begin to believe that this is the most just choice also because facebook is not the first-come and if he chose this instead of the template responsive there will be a reason. the important thing is that the template and the splash page still possible to be used with the mobile. and on this I opened a dispute that has gone for days without having a solution for one splash page that i purchased. after this I have tested a lot splash page and template and I also see that in the market the most is compatible. one solution would be to make a template to sell on the market dedicated exclusively to the mobile that comes into play when these devices are used. what do you think? maybe I'm wrong.

No. already kinda have that on market with WAP module.

Thing is, a separate version that kicks in for mobile would prob be scaled down and different to your main site. therefore limited.

Responsive is MUCH better... means you do things once and anyone can view it properly.

 Exactly!

The next 2 weeks should see some responsive templates enter the market place, we could even see a lot of current templates being upgraded!

I know they are becoming more freely available for WP, as everyone is releasing Responsive Design over Mobile pages, and they are getting much cheaper than previous standard templates, could be that the demand for them over old designs mean increased sales in a currently slow market.

How you know there are responsive templates comming for Dolphin ? I dont think that happen so quickly - I would say 6 months...but maybe I gonna be surprised :-)

I really hope not that long... I will prob be gone by then!

Got a WP site in dev at the mo which is doing nearly all my D sites did and with a bunch of new plugins to go with it!

fully responsive also. in fact, I can take my pic from tons of responsive themes! 

 I'm surprised there are not any on offer now, if it was not for the delay in a mod I have been waiting for to be upgraded to 7.1, I would not have been looking around for options.

In looking I am finding that everyone is already offering mobile responsive templates in WP, and other platforms. It is the template that is responsive, not the core.

 I found myself in the same position, I need to complete a mobile platform with a front end. WP look to offer the best option for mobile devices at this stage.

The one of my templates is already nearly responsive, I will try to update it today

Here is an article from Forbes on Responsive vs Mobile websites. It’s important to understand that having a mobile version of your website isn’t enough anymore.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/work-in-progress/2013/03/26/why-you-need-to-prioritize-responsive-design-right-now/

"One thing is certain, you don’t want to fall behind and watch your competitors launch responsive websites while yours is still stuck in 2010 (or earlier). The time to get responsive with your web design is now."

AndrewP: can u please give out a link to that template which is nearly rersponsive so we can take a look how template actually looks ?

Please try this template

I adjusted some styles today to make it responsive.

Thanx Andrew ... I donmt like two things .. price and design - design is not bad - cant say its ugly or something like that - its okay but somehow its not very "hot" I think you are without doubt great programmer but from design poiint its not that good ...  no offense throught - just my opinion. For 150 usd wiich is basically double of price of other templates I would expect ,more appealing design

no need for responsive design here but i like how fast you have done this, great work Andrew!!

Fantastic!

only found one thing that needs attention while using iphone - the captcha on join form cannot be read fully.

It says something like - whats the 3rd word... then its cut off.

Can you change the captcha bit? (or I guess it can be turned off in admin!)

Otherwise brilliant and you are the saviour of Dolphin for me!

Payday on its way :-)

Thanks 

anyway I would like to congrat Andrew to be FIRST rersponsive template developer here - I think u deserve some award :-) How its about 3rd party extensions used in your respoonsive template - will template itself deal with that or all 3rd party modules used in your responsive template have to be edited to be responsive ?

> its not very "hot"  ... from design poiint its not that good

I'm not sure about it. If you are sure about design, then, maybe you can show us any 'hot' template? And we will compare then.

>How its about 3rd party extensions used in your respoonsive template - will template itself deal with that or all 3rd party modules used in your responsive template have to be edited to be responsive ?

In most cases it should work well with most of modules (and even with 3rd party products)