Looking to Hire Dolphin 7.1 Experienced Tutor - part 2

Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

what "link" or page "block" to I add to the navigation menu?

OK, tutoring on the navigation builder.  There are builders for the main navigation menu, the service menu, and the bottom menu.  The main row of items are the top level menu item.  Items under the top level will appear in a dropdown list.  If you want your new link to be in the top level, you drag up a new item block and place it in the menu item where you want it to appear; sometime it can take a bit for the code to know where you are and to slide things around.  Once you have the item where you want it to be, you enter the bits for it, system name, language key, default, etc.  For adding a page that you created, you would enter in the URL box page/my_page just like that; replacing my_page which the actual page.  If you are unsure what to put, go to the page builder, open your page, and over at the right will be "View Page" , click on that and it will open in a new tab or window and you can see the part behind the /page/ in the URL.   As I said before, do not put a slash in front of page because Dolphin will do that for you when it adds the site root to complete the URL.

Now, the Pink items all the way to the right can not be removed; they are special part of the menu builder.

Quick links in a URL is the box that is in the account page.

Items are added automatically to the submenus of the site.  If you hide a top menu item, it will hide it in the submenus as well.

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Quote · 7 Dec 2013

I have not played with the chat window myself.

I would try this:

<bx_include_auto:_sub_header.html />
    __page_main_code__

<div classes and ids you might want to add or inline style>

<script>
My adsense code here
</script>

</div>

<bx_include_auto:_sub_footer.html />

If it doesn't work as expected, delete the code added.

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Quote · 7 Dec 2013

In addition to my other problems in the navigation builder... in 7.1 - UNLIKE IN 6.1, I am unable to just drag and drop the navigation headings where I want them!  They will NOT allow me to move them.....

This is obviously becoming a Multi-directional conversation, which is ALSO why I prefer to speak with someone on the phone when doing this crap!   Some topics and discussion in life are just not practical for written word.

Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

I have not played with the chat window myself.

I would try this:

<bx_include_auto:_sub_header.html />
    __page_main_code__

<div classes and ids you might want to add or inline style>

<script>
My adsense code here
</script>

</div>

<bx_include_auto:_sub_footer.html />

 

I have NO idea what I am doing when messing with the root files... And therefore I REFUSE to attempt them without a LIVE person ON THE PHONE - ON STAND BY to help fix the problem if I should break something.....  But I do appreciate your effort to help.

Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

In addition to my other problems in the navigation builder... in 7.1 - UNLIKE IN 6.1, I am unable to just drag and drop the navigation headings where I want them!  They will NOT allow me to move them.....

This is obviously becoming a Multi-directional conversation, which is ALSO why I prefer to speak with someone on the phone when doing this crap!   Some topics and discussion in life are just not practical for written word.

That should not be, they will move around, sometimes it can be tricky; it sounds like something may be interring with the jquery on the builders page.

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Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

 

I have not played with the chat window myself.

I would try this:

<bx_include_auto:_sub_header.html />
    __page_main_code__

<div classes and ids you might want to add or inline style>

<script>
My adsense code here
</script>

</div>

<bx_include_auto:_sub_footer.html />

 

I have NO idea what I am doing when messing with the root files... And therefore I REFUSE to attempt them without a LIVE person ON THE PHONE - ON STAND BY to help fix the problem if I should break something.....  But I do appreciate your effort to help.

I suggest at this stage that you let someone else do such things for you.  In order to tutor something like this, I would need to be VPNed to your system so I could watch as you work and see exactly what you were doing.

Geeks, making the world a better place
Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

 

 

I have not played with the chat window myself.

I would try this:

<bx_include_auto:_sub_header.html />
    __page_main_code__

<div classes and ids you might want to add or inline style>

<script>
My adsense code here
</script>

</div>

<bx_include_auto:_sub_footer.html />

 

I have NO idea what I am doing when messing with the root files... And therefore I REFUSE to attempt them without a LIVE person ON THE PHONE - ON STAND BY to help fix the problem if I should break something.....  But I do appreciate your effort to help.

I suggest at this stage that you let someone else do such things for you.  In order to tutor something like this, I would need to be VPNed to your system so I could watch as you work and see exactly what you were doing.

 

 

Fair enough.  it's just that one thing life has taught me, is that the written word is most often, the most vulnerable.   If i screw something up, I don't want to spend 15 weeks trying to "describe" what i did wrong to someone, and have 12 different people all giving 25 different bits and pieces of "Solutions" to a problem they only think they understand.....  

Wisdom has taught me to do things the RIGHT way, the FIRST time.

Quote · 7 Dec 2013

As for the "Chat Page",  I just thought it would be a really good place to add a box at the bottom, or on the side for placing add spots for revenue generation.

Like a place for adsense code?  I might take a look-see; others have done it through the template.  I think Newton has already done this so maybe he will pop in with some help for you.

Since you will not be using Adsense code, as per our text earlier, but your own sponsor banner/tower ads. This is the post.

http://www.boonex.com/forums/topic/advertising-adsense-on-chat-page-etc.htm#165358

If your not comfortable doing it, we will do tomorrow when I call. In the linked post, there is an attached file that has had the changes, what is needed is the changes to use your banners and remove the adsense stuff.

Stayed out a bit to late and not in a code mode or I would do it tonight.. it's best not to drink and change files.

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Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

Wisdom has taught me to do things the RIGHT way, the FIRST time.


True. But experience has taught me, to learn it, you need to do it.

Set up a second test site. A site you can play with and break and do again as many times as needed without having to mess with your production site.

https://www.deanbassett.com
Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

 

Wisdom has taught me to do things the RIGHT way, the FIRST time.


True. But experience has taught me, to learn it, you need to do it.

Set up a second test site. A site you can play with and break and do again as many times as needed without having to mess with your production site.

Agree 100%; I do this with any site I am building for someone.  let an oops take down a test site, not a live production site.

Geeks, making the world a better place
Quote · 7 Dec 2013

 

 

 

Wisdom has taught me to do things the RIGHT way, the FIRST time.


True. But experience has taught me, to learn it, you need to do it.

Set up a second test site. A site you can play with and break and do again as many times as needed without having to mess with your production site.

Agree 100%; I do this with any site I am building for someone.  let an oops take down a test site, not a live production site.

 

Ok sure, sounds easy enough if you know how to set-up a second text sight...   Let's not lose sight of the fact that I didn't even set this one up.  Everything's easier said than done.

Quote · 8 Dec 2013

Ok,

In layman's terms please.......

I am trying to create "New Pages" in my top drop down menu.    I couldn't get the drop-in-drag boxes to move, so I was told to download Chrome and the software for dolphin doesn't work in anything but chrome...  Which I do NOT like, and I feel should have been disclosed to be BEFORE I paid almost $400 for a license.  None the less, hind sight is always 20/20.

So...  I downloaded Chrome, did it all.  Yes, I refreshed, Yes I cleared cache, yadda, yadda.  However, my drop-in-drag boxes in the Page Navigation set up in Admin, will STILL not allow me to drop, drag or move ANY boxes.  Even INSIDE of Chrome.  So, I am guessing I downloaded yet another item to my computer (which I HATE doing) and it is at first glance, appearing to be seemingly pointless.

Additionally, for some reason, the "NEW" content I put onto the new page I created is NOT the same content that is now displaying in the "Language Key".    The New webpage says one thing, but the page can not be edited through the language key like I was under the impression it was supposed to be able to do.

So what in the world am I doing wrong?  Why is nothing working?  Even after downloading new browsers?
BTW, I am still using 7.1.0

UGH!  The madness!

Quote · 8 Dec 2013

You misunderstood what I said today.

When you change or add a new page, you have to change the "URL" in the Nav menu, now granted you cannot move the items, I can.

Also not all your anti-spam items are enabled, you still need the Askimet key. I split the join form which I will explain when we talk.

We also need to remember your install is via your cPanel auto installer.

I sent you a mobile text...

ManOfTeal.COM a Proud UNA site, six years running strong!
Quote · 8 Dec 2013

I suggest you let me or Newton set up a new site for you not using a premade installation such as scriptalicious.  If you have not really done a lot to the current site, then toss it or if you do have stuff we can migrate the database for you.

As for the boxes not moving, it does not seem to be a problem with the installation, such as a jquery conflict; otherwise, Newton would not have been able to move the menu items around.  Since it is not browser related; since you could not get it to move in Chrome as well, then it must be something else on your system that is interfering.  I test in IE, FF, Opera, and Chrome.  Once I get the Ubuntu system back online I can test under Linux as well.  I can not test on Apple products.  I have no problem using Dolphin in the browser mentioned under Windows; need to get my Ubuntu back online.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2013

 

I suggest you let me or Newton set up a new site for you not using a premade installation such as scriptalicious.  If you have not really done a lot to the current site, then toss it or if you do have stuff we can migrate the database for you.

As for the boxes not moving, it does not seem to be a problem with the installation, such as a jquery conflict; otherwise, Newton would not have been able to move the menu items around.  Since it is not browser related; since you could not get it to move in Chrome as well, then it must be something else on your system that is interfering.  I test in IE, FF, Opera, and Chrome.  Once I get the Ubuntu system back online I can test under Linux as well.  I can not test on Apple products.  I have no problem using Dolphin in the browser mentioned under Windows; need to get my Ubuntu back online.

 

 

My site is nearly complete!    I am guessing other than learning curve, the functionality is just a couple days away form being ready to launch.  NO WAY can I start over now.

I don't care how's it's done, replace, rewritten, overwritten or updated.   I just can NOT lose any of my current work.   I'd probably just break down and give up!   if someone wants to start fresh with a brand new raw install on my new VPS server, I'm fine with that...  As long as all of my work is saved!   

If that's easier Newt than transferring files form one server to the next & then updating, let me know...  You have access to my license key!  Do whatever you do.   The script I am using now appears to be broken anyway with not being able to edit or move Navigation boxes.

Quote · 8 Dec 2013

I like to back everything up often. In addition to cpanel home directory and database backups i like to zip up and download public html as well . I do prefer to experiment in a test site but crap happens. Better safe than than sorry.

Quote · 8 Dec 2013

OK....  Adding new pages & sub-pages...


Again, laymans terms please.  I have done everything I know how to do involving creating a new page. 

1).  I added the Page Block to the Navigation builder.

2). I added the new language key

3). I added the new pager URl to the Navigation block.

4). I even added the new language setting....

 

EVERYTHING matches.  I "Copied &Pasted" all relevant information.  Yet even though the page header appears along the top form my website view and even though the actual pages (sub-pages) also show their corresponding link.  NO pages can be found!  The information is not showing anywhere!  I just get an error that says specifically...  "Page Not Found".

So, any suggestions PLEASE!

Quote · 9 Dec 2013

Something REALLY strange about it....   Is that even from the page builder when I click on "View Page", it says page can not be found!  Blowing my mind!

Now, someone upgraded to 7.1.4 today for me, yet my Admin page still says I am on Verson 7.1....   Could this have anything to do with it?

Quote · 9 Dec 2013

 

Now, someone upgraded to 7.1.4 today for me, yet my Admin page still says I am on Verson 7.1....   Could this have anything to do with it?

No, the admin doesn't list the full release.  If you like, I have a VPN programme I could email you and then you connect to my computer (I don't and can not connect to you; you have full control) and I can watch what you are doing and advise.

Is Newton still helping you on this; I did not get a reply from him on the PMs I sent?

Oh, if you go into host tools, I think it will report the full release version number.

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Quote · 9 Dec 2013

 

Something REALLY strange about it....   Is that even from the page builder when I click on "View Page", it says page can not be found!  Blowing my mind!

Now, someone upgraded to 7.1.4 today for me, yet my Admin page still says I am on Verson 7.1....

Nope. If you notice, the admin panel only shows 2 digits of the version. Not the 3'rd digit.

Anyhow. When you click on that view page link. Is that right after creating the page before you have actually added columns and content to the page? Because if the page is empty, then that would be normal.

But if this is doing this with all pages even ones that have content, then i would have to say you may have a problem with your htaccess file. Perhaps the permalinks are not working.

Has anyone looked at your site for problems. You seem to be having a lot of problems that you should not be having.

https://www.deanbassett.com
Quote · 9 Dec 2013

It is not so easy to tutor someone remotely unless you can see exactly what they are doing, what they are clicking on, what they are dragging etc.  I know because I have done so many times and it is very frustrating to do.  What will help will be video tutorials illustrating what to do.  I think Newton has created some of those and there may be others on the forum or other help sites. 

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Quote · 9 Dec 2013

None the less,  I'll entertain your suggestion anyway, just so no one can say I didn't try.

 

Here's my problem,  I am trying to build new pages & sub pages. I read over the online tutorial, but as it is outdated, doesn't answer ALL of my questions.   What a lot of you more seasoned Vets on here don't seem to realize, is that Sure, it makes sense to you even though it's out dated, because you understand the process.  HOWEVER, to someone EXTREMELY new such as myself, if it's out dated and doesn't answer ALL of the questions, it just creates confusions galore!

This is what I am doing.

1.  I go to the page builder, create the new page

2.  Add the new HTML block name it as so (example).  "_example_page"

3.  Check the boxes for Guest & Member

4.  Add brief text in the WYSIWYG editor for reference

5.  Click Save

6. Then I go to Builders/Navigation Menu

7. Drag the "New Item" block up to the Main page header where I want the new sub page.

8. Enter into "System Name" :  'Example Page'

9. Enter into "Language Key" : ' _example_page'  (although I was told NEVER give it a full name & do it more like 'exam_pg'

10. Enter into the "Default Name" :   'Example Page'

11.  Enter into the "URL BOX" ;   'page/example_page'

12.  Check the box for "Quick Link"

13.  Target Window :  'Same'

14. Check Boxes for Both Guest & Member

15. Go to "Language Settings"   Enter 'example' & click "apply"

16. Enter into the "Key Name" :  ' _example_page'

17.  Enter into string text:   "Example Page"

18.  Click Save.

 

 

Go and look for my page...  NOTHING!   -  And that's exactly how I was told to do it too.  But it just does NOT work!

Quote · 10 Dec 2013

 

Has anyone looked at your site for problems. You seem to be having a lot of problems that you should not be having.

Simple answer here, the wrong URLs are in the box for the sites.

Members, I updated Kevins site today to version 7.1.4, he was under a soft install and at version 7.1.0.

First problems were posted yesterday I think about not being able to move boxes, user error, admits was not putting the mouse to the left or right of the "HTML Block" text on the movable blocks or in the navigation menu. Once the correct place on the tab was found, when the move symbol popped up and he could move the blocks.

Your problem today, as I was trying to say earlier, your putting page language key name in the wrong place and using capitalized words and not knowing that has major effects on pages and language keys.. 

I hope you get your answers from here.

And members, he refuses to install other web browsers for testing, Skype, and no "control" software for this tutoring.

ManOfTeal.COM a Proud UNA site, six years running strong!
Quote · 10 Dec 2013

I duplicated EVERYTHING just as you had it Newt...  Even though I seen you did the URLS two different ways and weren't consistent.  Although I'm sure that's obviously not the problem....  

 

I opened YOUR pages that were working in one window and mine in another.  Followed the steps for mine accordingly then moved to the next step and repeated the procedure.  I did this through all three steps.  Page Block, Language keys & Navigation menu.   Yet I can't get it to work.


I'm sure it is user error!  I have no doubt, I never indicated that it wasn't.  But that's just it!  I want to learn!  But I can't learn whan all I'm told it "You're Doing It Wrong" - "You're Not Getting It" - "Go Look At Your Webpage & See What I Did",   -  That's all I'm getting told.  I'm sorry, but That's not teaching me ANYTHING!

I want to learn so that I don't make these mistakes, but I can't learn like that!

 

And Newt, that is a FLAT OUT LIE!   And You know it!  I just got off of Skype from talking to you.  I'll copy our conversation and even take screen shots & show it here to prove it!    And as for another Browser...  I did say I didn't want to keep downloading all kinds of stuff to my computer, but I did indeed do it anyway, because YOU told me that Dolphin admin only works in Google Chrome.  You said it doesn't work in any other browser... Then after I downloaded it and it still didn't work, and we realized what the problem was, You told me to go ahead and delete it!

Don't make me out to be like that man, that ain't cool... Especially after I just mailed `you $100 to help me!

Quote · 10 Dec 2013

Skype With Newt

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Quote · 10 Dec 2013
 
 
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